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A.Itruth
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« on: September 04, 2008, 07:25:30 AM »

can anyone get one sence out of this pharse that just came to me last night
'i am the destroyer i stand beside the creator and away from the believer'
i dont understand this and i hope u can help me please
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« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2008, 06:21:33 PM »

hhmmm how did it come to you?
well, when things go amuck like in Sodom and Gamora (spellling) there will be a destroyer
People think of angels as all loving tender feathery beings who pet puppy dogs and pick flowers
some are
then others destroy...volcanos, earthquakes, hurricanes.... can all be triggered by angels
"away from the believe", I don't know, I imagine there is some segregation in heaven, but more of a respectful understanding in a way - I am for this - You are for that - Natural Order...just guessing of course
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« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2008, 07:53:13 PM »

I am the Destroyer.  I stand beside the Creator and away from the Believer.

I really like this phrase.  Here's my take on it, A.Itruth.  It may or may not make sense to you, depending on what you believe in.

The "destroyer" is Satan.  The "creator" is God.  The "believer" is the people who believe in (whoever).

Although every version of the Bible out there depicts Satan as being as far away from Heaven as possible, it MAY mean that although God is the Creator, there needs to be a Destroyer to keep the balance in the universe.  By that, I mean this:  If every living thing is immortal, how do we eat, clothe & provide shelter for ourselves & our loved ones?  We can't kill an animal for their hides & for their meat--they're immortal as well.  So any attempt at getting food will fail because they're immortal.

Considering that & the fact that there are what? 3 billion? people on the planet right now, it'd be quite a mess.  Imagine 12 billion immortal people.  Try imagining us living alongside dinosaurs & cavemen, as well as all the people who died Atlantis, the cities of Pompeii & Herculaneum that were destroyed by volcanic eruptions, people who died in WWI & II...  You can't, right?  That's where the Destroyer (Satan) comes in.  He helps God create the balance within the world so that we CAN kill animals to feed & clothe ourselves.  It also "allows" every creature on Earth to die so that there'll be enough room for new ones to come in.

So God & Satan stand by each other because they're the Yin to each other's Yang.  You stand apart from the believer because they try to force you to believe in either one or the other ("you go to heaven, or you go to hell"), & not giving you choices to believe that there's a third way ("maybe there's a Purgatory we go to").

I hope this helps you to understand your phrase. Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2008, 07:50:37 AM »

to answer Jackie's question
it just kinda popped into my head one day when I woke up
I don't know if Satan is me or have anything to do with me  Undecided

And starfiresong thank you for such an interesting description it helps me understand it slightly better
but like I said to Jackie i don't know where it came but from maybe I'm part of a plan devised by Satan (hope not)
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« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2008, 03:01:11 PM »

You're welcome, A.I. Smiley

I've also noticed you're worried about whether Satan may be using you for his own ends.  He can only do that if you let him in.  I do wonder why you would be so concerned that he would want to use you specifically.  I mean, like I said, there are (maybe) 3 billion people living on Earth today.  He could have his choice of any one of those 3 billion people.  I guess my question to you is this:  The devil has his choice of 3 billion people.  What has you thinking that Satan has this special fascination with you?

Like I said, he can pick anyone to use for his purposes, but if you're strong enough, you can resist him, no matter what he tries to do.

Hope this helps.
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« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2008, 03:12:56 PM »

I have to respectfully disagree....Satan was destroyed....by Michael the archangel...well not destroyed, but cast out of the sight of the Creator....The Creator said the angels have to bow to humans, Lucifer refused...then there was war in heaven. Michael cast Lucifer from the sight of the Creator. They don't stand side by side.....Lucifer was one of billions of angels The Creator  - created - and when Lucifer was cast from God's sight other angels fell also - they fell like rain, so there are thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands or even millions of "evil" angels - Evil is just out to prove humans are not worthy of being bowed to. Onlky the Creator can extinguish that which he created

It was angels of the Creator who destroyed Sodom and Gamora, it was angels of the Creator that sent the plagues on Egypt....and took the eldest son...
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« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2008, 04:19:34 PM »

starfiresong i think i may not be on my own with Satan but part of a group of 4
like a dream i had ages ago which is on here somewhere

Jackie
that was very interesting and I'm starting to get a picture of what it really means
because it could be referring to many thing on this planet
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« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2008, 04:56:33 PM »

Jackie, that's why, before I began my opinion on what A.I's phrase meant, I said, "It may or may not make sense to you, depending on what you believe in." Smiley  Personally, my beliefs are vastly different from the Bible.  (You can call my beliefs much more liberal than the average Christian.)  I just typed what I thought made sense in keeping with the contemporary Christian beliefs now.

To get back onto the original topic of this thread:  I'm glad that you're beginning to understand your phrase, A.I.  I'll be sure to find your dream so I can better understand your questions. Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2008, 05:14:55 PM »

it is called i am 1 of 4
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