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« on: February 14, 2009, 08:46:39 AM »

Just a weird dream made on St.Valentine night... Roll Eyes
I am in a place like a convention room, or specialization class, with many people. Then I follow a fat, in her 50ties woman with short hair who introduces me one of her friends, bringning me into her house. This friend of her comes across, and she is the partner ( in real life) of my ex boyfriend. She is pregnant, with big belly. She's nice with me, and friendly. In the dream, I feel I'm still into my ex boyfriend. I act emotionless, but friendly to her. She talks to me about the joy she and her fiancee are having about this baby to be given birth. The young lady is bright, smiling and happy. She invites me to join her and creating figures with iron wire. We are both standing, creating shapes with iron wire with our own hands, and talking calmly, while, all of sudden, the pregnant lady takes the wire and throw it violently into her belly, with fury, wounding herself and her baby.
Then I am into a huge room full of people. A sort of funeral made into a hall.  Everyone's crying the baby. My ex boyfriend ( her fiancee) is not there. He never was in the picure, I notice it and I wonder why. There are flowers and pieces of broken dolls all around. The young lady is in the middle of the room with low head, then she begins to scream that she willingly killed her baby, because she hates her mate, he is not in love with her and she hates he has still feelings for me, and that was a sort of revenge... ( something like a Medea complex-act!). Also, she had her hands cut off.
In the dream everything is painful, it is like a horror scene, but I don't feel guilty, and no strong emotions at all ( fear/anger/..nothing at all).
I go out the room. In the park there are policemen who take fingerprints. They stop me and take my fingerprint too.
a few later someone announces that they found the real killer of the baby, a girl named alexandra.
I wake up annoyed and puzzled, a little bit scared.
But I don't know what it could mean.......... Huh
I'm woman, in my thirties.
any help, please?
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« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2009, 01:01:19 AM »

You're dealing with some strong violent emotions here.  I don't know what all the details mean, but I'll give it a try...

First, you're following an older woman into the room where the scene happens.  I think this older woman might be the "old woman" of the soul, the maternal figure whose role is to bring nourishment and health to our souls.  She is leading you to meet someone.  The fact that you see her as rather unattractive (from what I gather the way you describe her) means that you are a little resistant to learn what she wants to show you.

I believe that the woman you meet in the dream, who is attached to your ex-boyfriend, is a part of your own soul that you have not accepted yet.  Maybe it's the part of your soul that is still attached to your ex-boyfriend.  You are at odds with her, since you think that your conscious self ("You" in the dream) has mastered the situation.  Yet she's there, and your dream is telling you that there's still part of you that is not under the control of your rational mind, as it relates to your ex.  Maybe I'm wrong here, so let me know if this strikes a chord or not!  If I'm on the right track, I'll continue. Just let me know!
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« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2009, 01:09:52 PM »

Hi Joynsyde,

Thank You so much for your attention.  Smiley
Your insight did hit something true, I do have feelings for this ex, actually we never start a real story, we had just had a very short time of dating years ago, but our departures did cut every possible relationship away. But we never lost the communication and still now we have a friendly relationship. I do still love him, and now there could be the possibility to be together. But I'm troubled by mixed feelings, and I'm completely unable to express my feelings to him. About this girlfriend of him, I've only seen her occasionally once, never talk to her. He never talked to me about her. . . and I've wondered why he's so secretive with me, while the other common friends does know she exists.
This issue is what is bothering me a little bit these days. But I'm afraid to talk or to do steps and ruin something. . . but I didn't mind that much durning the day, and I keep going on with things in my life the same...
So..please, just go ahead and don't beware on express your thoughts about what my subconscious mind could alert me about. Tell me if you need more details... THANKS!!  Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2009, 01:39:20 AM »

OK, thanks for the information.

I'll start off with my intuition that his dream is a way for your soul to process all your emotions that you can't express in daily life.  God made our souls, like our bodies, to heal themselves, and I believe that dreams are part of that process.  Getting things out in the open (via dreams, therapy, friendships,etc.); putting yourself in a positive environment; giving yourself time; and telling yourself the Truth will all help you heal properly.

Seeing this rival girlfriend in your dream could be one of several things.  Maybe, since you don't really know her, rarely see her, never talk to her, your dream is fantasizing about what she could be like.  Or it might be, like I said at first, that you are meeting a part of your own soul.  I tend to think that this is really the case.  This woman represents the part of your soul that still wants a romantic relationship with the Ex.
The girl being pregnant represents a "Possibility," renewed hope in your life, or a new idea. You think you might still have a chance with your Ex, you are nursing this idea deep inside.  The metaphor of pregnancy is used.
Playing with iron wire... hmmm I'm not sure why the dream would choose this particular element as a weapon.
The woman stabs herself and the baby-- Violent self-destruction.  Maybe this indicates a killing of hope. You are trying to get rid of any hope for a new beginning in this relationship.  The fact that you felt emotionless in the dream may be underscoring this idea:  you are killing your emotions.
The woman had her hands cut off.  This symbolizes that part of your soul is feeling powerless to do anything about the situation.
She confesses that she hates her mate and is jealous that he still has feelings for you.  I think this means that this part of your soul, the part that wants romance with the guy, is fighting against the part of you that just wants to be friends.  The guy seems to prefer just to be friends with you too, and this romantic part really hates that.  You are seeking a deeper fulfilment with him, but it just isn't happening.  This is creating a violent emotional outburst, and an attempt at self-destruction, a very feminine revenge tactic.
The police could represent the part of you that is looking for facts, just wanting to be logical about all of this.
Taking your fingerprints has something to do with identity. The dream might be deliberately comparing the woman without hands (the romance-seeker) with the more rational part of you, who DOES have hands. In fact, these hands are what you are identifying yourself with.  You are coming to terms with the idea that you are just going to be friends with your Ex, and that's all.
I'm not really sure about the last part, finding the real killer being someone named Alexandra.  This could be a reference to someone in your own life.  The only thing I can think of is Alexander the Great, who was famous for conquering the entire known world at record speed.    Tongue

Does any of that help?  Take what you like, throw out or replace what you don't.  You are, ultimately, the best interpreter of your own dreams.
God bless.
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« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2009, 03:58:08 PM »

Hello Joynsyde,  Smiley

Thank You for the accurate and detailed insight, it is really amazing.   
Everything you do analize about the dream it fits and gets a sense.
The conflict you see in the dream is just what in my waking life I try to avoid the most. I do believe the violence in the dream can be the outburst and compensation of what I , in my waking life, call " don't put too much weigh on things" attitude; I DO have an oversensitive/dramatic side, which sometimes shows off and sometimes, like in this situation, I have to "conceal". And sometimes when things get stressful I try to have the opposite approach, being "light" and don't let them affect me too much. So, now, in my waking life it is true I'm aware of these feelings I have for this person, but I know that to express them is not the right thing to do, therefore I tend to say "everythingisallrightthesame", and be playful, rather than let myself being stressed up about it or let myself or someone else to suffer, or let a bigger mistake to happen. And I'm proud of myself when it works...
But I see eventually my "romantic side" underneath finds its way at night to get revenge on me over this attitude!!    Tongue Smiley

So: this "Medea" vs. "Mrs Nice Gal" war, I get it.

The HANDS: the keen comparation you noticed among the woman without hands and my "identity through the fingers" fits a lot. Actually my hands are very important to me, i do a creative/ handcraft job and they're essential, to give shape to things ( maybe it relates also to the iron wire), but I use them a lot also when I talk, when I'm happy/angry/nervous...yes, my feelings runs a lot through them. Then, my Ex himself is partly involved with my Art and Craft activity.

ALEXANDRA: mmm...in my waking life very few things relate with this name. But all the people I known named Alexandra/ Alexander are artists. One is a good singer. Another plays in drama and theatre. Another is a music teacher. I can't see any other key, except of that.
But I like your "Alexander the Great link" as a solution, and I'd love to take its message as a "wishwell"!  Grin

What to say...the way our inner self is able to create images and situations is so fascinating, as much as the way you are able to read these signs and give them a context. I feel better now I've read your words. It's conforting to think there's a natural process of healing on its way into myself... and that the violence of the dream is not anything I have to be scared or worried about. Thank You for helping me to get a new view.
Keep up with your good work, I think you're really gifted in reading dreams!  Smiley
All the Best to You Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2009, 07:27:03 AM »

Hello everybody again
...in addition:
I made last night another "baby related" dream!
I never happen so often to have dream I remember so close to each other. That's why I post it...

I'm in my work environment. Only that my desk is not in the place it is in reality, in the dream it is central and facing the door. Open space. A lot of white in fornitures. Good natural lighting.
From the door it enters a woman. I know her, she's a politician ( quite popular), she enters with a baby-carriage, she talks with some people then she greets me. I notice her elegance, and her dress which is at odds with the way she usually dresses ( quite sober and "rigid"), now she's wearing a very feminine and silky skirt and fleshy collants. She says she's happy about the baby. In the dream I see only the baby cariage, but not the baby inside.
Then other people arrives into the room. I recognize one of my old school friends I lost the communication with, and I feel embarassed because we lost the touch for so many years and I never called her back ( this is also in real life). But we talk to each other, at the end. And then I wake up.

So... again other female charachters in my dreams. This time the visit is from a fancy politician and someone I feel a little bit guilty about. Other parts of my soul I need to listen to? Is it has something to do with the same inner process Joynsyde wrote about ( maybe a step ahead?)?

Notes: in real life I was impressed, years ago, by this woman politician because she left her career- she declared so- for staying near to her sick mother and take care of her.

Does it has any meaning?
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« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2009, 01:10:13 AM »

Okay, I can't offer a complete interpretation. However, just the title of this post alone made me wonder whether the dream took place after having relations (which your first comment seems to confirm).

This dream sounds very similar to one that Freud discusses in "The Interpretation of Dreams". In the Freud dream, a man gets out of a carriage with his lover and is immediately arrested for infanticide.

On hearing this, Freud concluded-correctly-that the man had the dream shortly after having relations with the lover in real life. His analysis:In real life, the two of them had not been very careful. The dream fulfills the man's wish that his recent bedroom activities would not result in a pregnancy.

I can't say with any certainty whether any of this pertains to your situation. I merely offer this up as an interesting suggestion.
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