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Carl Jung believed that our earliest remembered childhood dream would often be a preview of the direction of our life. I am hoping that some members would be willing to tell us about their earliest remembered dreams of childhood. The dream that I posted at http://www.dreaminterpretationhelp.com/ouroboros_dream-t2028.0.html is one of my earliest remembered dreams and is, in my opinion, the most significant.
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« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2009, 04:40:55 PM » |
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I couldn't resist this, but I don't know if I can remember any dreams really clearly from early childhood. I did have alot of nightmares,,,one that stands out that I dreamt when I was about 8, and it's really silly but here goes... I am in my old house, and in my dream I hear footsteps coming towards my room. I am very scared, and I get out of bed to see who it is an nobodies there. I go down the hallway to see if someone is hiding. Then I hear a door burst open downstairs and some old witches cackley laughter and I can hear her coming and she's laughing and screaming all the way towards me. I try to figure out where to hide, but she gets closer to me before I can hide. I run to the closest bedroom with the intention of hiding under the bed, or in a wardrobe or something. As I enter the room, I see that it's flooded, there's a vast deep lake between me and where I want to go hide. THe witch is catching up so out of fear of her, I take a run and leap across the water. She is angry as she sees me reach the other side. She takes her head off her shoulders and throws it at me as I climb out on the other side of the flooded room. Her head comes toward me and I am very frightened as I have the thought she's going to eat me if she catches me. I look around the room to see where to hide, and I notice all these kitchen cabinets, so I open a drawer and decide to shapeshift to hide, I become a spoon and then a salt shaker. Her head in trying to sniff me out as it floats through the kitchen. I have to keep changing form when she's not looking so as to avoid detection. She is very ugly and looks like medusa. Although her hair is not snakes it's just knotty and dirty. She was old and had warts on her face, and her hair was black, I feared her touch and her eating me for dinner more that anything. Very silly, but I was little.
I do know kinda what this was about, because as a child I had to change who I was all the time to fit in with my family which caused me alot of anxiety because I just wanted to be me. I was never really allowed to be myself and relax, my mom was abusive and always was picking on me, she drank alot, and so to avoid her I hid myself alot, stayed out of her way, and always adjusted my personality so as not to make her mad. THerefore the shapeshifting I dreamt alot about when I was young. It was a very scary time in my life and lived walking on eggshells. Yes this dream was a hard one to remember but it did mean a lot at the time. Hope noone minds me sharing that.
This is the one dream that stands out the most but only dreamt it once. And the other one I had was a recurring dream was of standing on the edge of a really steep cliff edge. I am balanced precariously on the edge, feeling the urge to just either go over or step back. I stumble and I fall over the edge and I fall and fall for what feels like hours, and there was no landing. just a jolt and I'd wake up. I had that dream for years before the age of ten.
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« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2009, 06:44:59 PM » |
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Geehutch
Thanks for posting what must have been very stressful dreams.
In the second dream, the one where you fall off the cliff's edge reminds me of the journey that some people make into the lower world of the unconscious. From what I have read, this type of dream is especially common among the more spiritual types.
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« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2009, 07:36:08 PM » |
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Oh, it is quite a common dream isn't it, I never thought of it as going deep into the unconsious. That puts a whole other twist on it for me, thanks. They were very stressful dreams, but I don't think I will ever forget them. Your dream about the snakes, was very interesting, and thanks for sharing it too. I was not very spiritual when I was little, at least I didn't think I was, I just questioned everything, especially God and his existence, perhaps that's spiritual I'm not sure. I did have a strong connection to something and an awareness I cannot describe from the time I was born though, like in the outdoors, I could sense life in everything around me, even rocks, lol.  Perhaps that's the connection. I do remember that when I was a baby seeing lights when the room was dark, I don't know if it was a dream, or if I was awake, but I could definately see them for years, and when I was about 3 or 4, there was more to them, like shapes, then it faded and was gone. This has been on my mind for a long time, especially when asked to recall my earliest dreams. I was told I had an overactive imagination and believed that, and that's when it all faded away. I don't doubt I saw what I saw now. But as an impressionable child being told something does not exist you tend to believe what you are told. Can you recall anything like that, or anyone else reading this? I know it has something to do with my future anyway, and something I will witness again if I'm lucky. 
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« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2009, 01:40:47 AM » |
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My mom said I was talking about symbols in this dream when I was about 4 years old, but I don't remember it. It came back when I was about 9 or 10: Someone had thrown me into a dark pit that felt like a prison. I saw glowing figures, they were glow worm dolls (the glow worm toys were kind of popular when I was a kid. I don't think I ever had one, but my cousin did.) They were very friendly, and asked what we were going to do to get out of the pit. I said, "I learned in Sunday School that when you praise the Lord he helps you in your troubles." So we sang the song, "I Love You Lord." As we did, we magically rose out of the pit. At the top, on solid ground, the glowworms gave me a disc-like ring, about the size of my hand, kind of shaped like a doughnut. It glowed, and it was purple with green edges. They said it would help me in another time of trouble. Sometimes when I close my eyes I can still see this ring, though I haven't seen it in dreams since. Then I saw myself with my sister in a dark forest. There had been an eclipse, so everything was dark and we could barely see. I knew that our mother was calling for us to come home, but everything was windy and dark. I remembered I had the purple/green ring in my pocket, and I pulled it out. It shone brightly, so we could see, and we made it home. ___________ I understood this dream only a few year later, when my parents divorced, and I was plunged into a time of darkness. Only my faith got me through. I believe this dream was prophetic, and the eclipse was a symbol of my parents' divorce. (Sun and moon can represent father and mother.) While I was going through the aftermath of the divorce (which came right as I hit puberty!) I found this dream I had written down, and the meaning of it was explained by my uncle. I was so encouraged.
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« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2009, 06:14:32 AM » |
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I wouldn't exactly say that falling off of a step cliff is common but it would be more common in the spiritual types. When I read a dream or a vision where someone has fallen off of a deep cliff, fell into a pit, is exploring a cave or something similar, I usually consider it to be a positive sign. As Jung wrote, "One does not become enlightened by imagining figures of light, but by making the darkness conscious. The latter procedure, however, is disagreeable and therefore not popular."
As for our beliefs, I sometimes tell people that 'who we are' is more important than 'what we believe.' (Or, at least, that is my opinion.)
There are probably Buddhist, Christians, Hindus, Jews, Muslims, pagans, etc who are all very spiritual. I suspect that even an atheist could be the spiritual type. I don't want to get too far off-topic but much of this spiritually probably comes from past life as well as present life experiences.
I remember reading somewhere that Edgar Cayce said that suffering, stress, depression and pushing ourselves beyond our normal limits help to raise kundalini. This may help to explain why so many spiritual types have had less than ideal childhoods. (But, there are some people who use their spiritual development for evil and not for good.)
Compared to many others, I was very lucky to have decent, moral parents as well as an older brother and two younger sisters who were all good people. However, my brother was very difficult to live with for many years. When he was about 50, he learned that he had Asperger's syndrome (and probably a few other problems). This made him difficult to live with. He was also three years older than I was and had the size to back-up any threat.
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« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2009, 10:48:02 AM » |
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So sorry to hear about your brother, Lugus. I thought my dream was common, I think the falling endlessly I associate with the common part. 'making the darkness concious', that sounds forboding, that would make it unpopular, but thanks for sharing it, it has given me something to think about.
"I sometimes tell people that 'who we are' is more important than 'what we believe.' " I totally agree, it's what I feel too. It all means doing the right thing and being a good person, just because it's right, not because we fear retribution from wrong doings. This is something I have always felt. It disturbs me alot, and what annoys me about some self-rightious religious people is that they follow the word of god or who ever, out of fear that if they do wrong they will be punished, this is just so wrong on so many levels. And completely misses the point of being a good person in the first place. Don't you think so? Sorry just a strong opinion I have.
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« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2009, 04:28:13 PM » |
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There is one dream a vividly remember from my childhood.
I'm walking on a path lined by stones, on either side of me I can see gardens and greenery but I keep walking, then in one of the gardens there is a tree with a lot of children my age playing, I don't remember their faces but they had little white wings on their backs and a nice inviting smile.
A few of them approached me but never crossed the stone barrier on the side of the path, they extended their hands to me and asked me to join them, to go with them to a garden even more beautiful than this one. I stopped walking but refused to go since my parents will feel sad if I left, they asked me twice but I gave the same answer. They left to play under the tree but one of them stayed behind reminding me that I had been asked twice, the third time I had to come, I agreed and then kept going on the path.
I remember this dream because as a child I had a very fragile body and was often admitted to the hospital for various reasons. when I had this dream I was sick (again) with a high uncontrollable fever, when I woke up I was fine and never had any health related problems since then, I was a kid then and though the angels must have cured me for now at least although I was a bit worried they may change thier minds since they looked upset I rejected thier offer, silly I know but I was just a kid.
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« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2009, 05:44:54 PM » |
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Hi there Joynsyde Thank you for telling us about your dream experience. You wrote that you were only about 4 years old when you had the dream. You were such a young thing for such a powerful dream. As I wrote to Geehutch above, I believe a dream of being underground -- in a cave or pit or such -- is almost always a good sign. It is a dream where we journey to the depths of the unconscious/underworld. This is the first dream that I have read with glow worm dolls. It sounds like they could very well be spirit helpers. I also like the way that you sang, "I Love You Lord" and then rose out of the pit. Your singing and being lifted from the dark pit reminds me of the experiences of a man named Howard Storm. He had a near-death experience and went to Hell. Here is his account of how his prayers got him out of Hell. And, he returned to tell about it. http://www.near-death.com/storm.html But, back to your dream -- The gift of the disk shaped ring was both terrific and must have been very exciting for you. I believe that dream gift like the ring is almost always a good sign. And, for you, it seemed to be a very good sign. Whenever I see something in a person?s dream that has the shape of a disk or a similar round shape, I look for chakra symbolism. The color purple is the royal color of kings and queens but it is also a color that is associated with the 6th chakra at the brow and the 7th chakra at the crown. The green color is also a good sign. It is associated with the 4th chakra at the heart. It is the chakra of healing and unconditional love. (I'm not sure how much input you wanted but I could not control myself.  ) Sorry to hear about your parents divorce but I imagine that was several years ago. But, thanks again for telling us about the amazing dream of one so young.
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« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2009, 06:27:48 PM » |
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Hello Kidlike
I am still amazed at the kinds of dreams that people have at a very young age.
If you are like me, as I learn more and more about dreams, I can get a better understanding of the dreams that I had when I was younger.
Do you think that these winged children were spirits? They certainly sound like they might have been spirits or even angels.
When they asked you to go with them, were they going to take you to heaven when you died?
There was a tree that played an important part in your dream. do you believe that the tree had any special significance? I have heard that some shaman will use such a dream or trance tree as a door to another world.
I don't know if you ever thought of this but your dream may have been a near-death experience. Does that sound possible to you? I have heard of people being cured from a NDE.
Being cured when near death is another sign of being called to shamanism. The power of the dreamer's spirit and her spirit helpers cures to newly called shaman.
Truly -- a great dream. (Sorry if I asked too many questions.) Thanks for posting.
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« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2009, 06:55:33 PM » |
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@ Lugus: Thank you for your input. And that really was an interesting story about Howard Storm. Well, I don't remember having the dream at 4 years old, but when I was 9-ish (exact age I don't remember), I had the dream. I woke up and told my mom about it, and she said that I had talked about a similar dream when I was 4. So I'm assuming that I had the dream twice. As I retyped this childhood dream it gave me insight into a situation I'm currently in, so I'm glad you started this topic! I don't know why these beings appeared as glow worms. Maybe because I liked those dolls as a child, and the dream was trying to find something familiar that emitted light? No idea! I've always thought that they were angels giving me a spiritual gift. Because the gift is spiritual, I don't think it corresponds to any one exact thing, like music or something like that. I think it's more like a sense of wholeness or light inside. When my uncle translated the dream for me he said that purple is royalty and green is life, very similar to what you said.
@ Kidlike: what an amazing dream, and what amazing results! It seems like the stone-lined path was representing your life on earth, and if you left it, it would be like you leaving this earth. I'm sure that you will live a long full life before the angels call you for the third and final time! Someone I know saw an angel while she was in the hospital after a car accident, in which she was very injured. She said it called to her to "come with me." She asked her mother, who was with her, if she could go with them, and her mother said, "No!" So she didn't. She recovered and is alive and healthy today. These kinds of things make me wonder how much of our death is in our freedom of choice.
@ Geehutch: Ditto to Lugus, about those dreams being very stressful. Kudos to you, on being transparent enough to share them. I am glad that you are no longer in such a bad situation. I always feel bad hearing about kids in trouble. They are so defenseless and they need so much love. For adults to abuse them or deny them love and acceptance is really a High Crime. I think of Jesus' words "If anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to stumble, it would be better for him to be thrown into the sea with a large millstone tied around his neck." But it is inspiring to hear about those, like yourself, who rise above their past and become loving adults.
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« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2009, 11:02:04 PM » |
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Thankyou joynsyde, I have rose above it all, I really believe that. Just as something to add, I too had glow worms as a child and cherished them, so funny really, I do know exactly what you are talking about. Their light was the familiar thing that your subconsious picked up on and was able to help you to relate to what you were seeing? Perhaps they were the connection that you needed at that time. Your dream was wonderful, and yours too kidlike, very inspirational to hear both of them, thanks so much for sharing.
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« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2009, 03:36:28 AM » |
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Hi all,
Geehutch your that is a very stressful dream for someone so young, sometimes parents over due it! A lot of people use their suffering to draw out their strength, I'm glad I got to now one of them.
Lugus it?s strange but in the dream that tree really did stand out, I?m not sure but I think it may have been an apple tree, don't know why I thought that as a kid since it didn't carry any fruits??? I believe I had a near death experience at the time since my temperature wouldn't go below 40-39 for three days and non of the doctors I visited knew why.
A Shaman is a link between the spirit world and this one right, I'm not a very spiritual person and since I had that dream I rarely saw spirits anymore (over active imagination maybe?). but I believe the ones I saw in my dream will came back one day to claim my soul, I don't mind that but till then I've decided to live for others since it was the reason I'm here.
Sorry I couldn't answer you questions, children are very sensitive so you'll be amazed at what they see.
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« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2009, 11:08:07 PM » |
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ooo i have one!
i dreamed this one when i was still sleeping in something cradle-like, because i had a hell of a time climbing out when i woke up. 3? 4 years old? here goes:
i dreamed i was at the top of a VERY high building in a very dirty city (I guess it was Mexico City, although I'd never been there before). I was visiting my little brother at the hospital, and I was with friends: a giant cricket and a few other insects. We were bringing him presents, I think he had a broken arm. Then there was an earthquake, and the whole building toppled down. I emerged out of the rubble, and I looked for my brother in the ashes. I saw his legs under the lid of a lego box, and when I removed the lid off of him I realized his body had been cut in half and he was dead.
I think I had this dream again later in my life...in high school or middle school, not sure. Obviously I found it traumatic.
As for the preview of my life...I can understand how it could be but I'd rather it not be, of course. However this dream DID set (or is part of) a pattern for my dream life, i think, as towers, natural disasters, and even nightmares about my brother are somewhat common themes.
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« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2009, 01:35:50 PM » |
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I am so impressed and moved by the postings here. Want to share mine. I am blessed with a rare early childhood memory, but we don't talk about dreams in our family. As a forty year old, I challenge myself to remember some of the early dreams. Can only think of three during the age 2-4. They are not nearly as profound as what I read from you, and the reason I remember them is rather the way I woke up than their foretelling power, but I throw them to the pool anyway.
1. Shortly after Bro was born, I was encouraged to meet more kids of my age (two). In this dream, I met another boy with a chubby face, which I liked a lot. So I asked him, "What's your name ?" He was behaving shy and yet seemed to be interested in hanging around me. So I asked again his name. He never replied. As I asked him again and again, he started to run away, and I end up chasing him and asking for his name. My nanny heard me screamed in sleep "what's your name", she woke me up and made fun of me.
2. My grandmother lived in our house. She doesn't like changes and never wanted her room to be re-painted. The color of the wall up above her bed is stained, together with the cracks, it looked like a imprinted witch to me. So I was always scared of that room. When my cousins visited when I was three, I had to share a bed with Granny, and that's when I dreamed that witch came out of the wall, threatened me and went after me.
3. I went to preschool when I was four and during an afternoon nap, I dreamed that my mother was in prison. I saw her sitting in her simple bed behind the bars. She was in an old fashioned yet beautiful white outfit, which I've never seen in real life. She wasn't looking in my direction and she didn't see me. It appeared to me that she was really calm. -- I know what this is about. Around that time, quite a few of our family friends purposely got themselves in jail to protest against a school, which allegedly taught torturing techniques. Mum didn't participate.
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« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2009, 11:41:08 PM » |
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Kai- As a kid I always saw "pictures" in the various textures of my house. When I went to sleep I often stared at the ceiling and "connected the dots" on the spackle bumps to make images. I would look out the window at the small forest beyond our yard and make images from the shapes of trees. I remember one of them distinctly looked like a skull. Seeing a witch in the cracks of the wall totally sounds like something I would have done too! Ha ha.
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My earliest dream is actually posted right in this forum from ages ago but i will say i had it around 6 or 7 years ago when i was 10-11 but for the record i will say it again (because i cherish this dream for some weird reason) I am walking down a red carpet in between rows of wooden benches in a very large cathedral I am in a black siut with white shirt and bow tie and black shoes I look to my right and i am arm in arm with a women She was in a white wedding dress (which looks real) but the women was anime ( japanese cartoon for those who do not know)( she had purple eyes and purple hair) She looked at me and smiled with her eyes closed I smiled back Then it blanks out for a sec We are walking back up the red carpet to a party There is food next to a huge semi circle window I go to 3 people who i knew from primary school ( 2 of which i remember their names) i ask them to get some board games from a garden before they are ruined in the rain they ignore me so i go to get them myself (btw the garden had short but very fresh grass, had a wooden fence around it and a climbing frame that had different colours on it) After getting the games and getting a bit wet i go to look for the women i walked down the red carpet with and i cannot find her (by now i am shouting her name) Then i look out of the semi cuircular window and see a black car driving away (and i knew she was in the car) the dream blacks out for another sec and i am fighting a knight in black armour he throws me into our land rover and i get up and charge him shouting "were is my wife" i hit him acouple of times more and then the dream finishes This dream has puzzled me for years I still know her name as well her name is "Ayeka" pronounced " iachea" I have remembered alot more than i normally do wow  what do you think is going on??
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