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« on: April 05, 2009, 07:10:15 AM »

I thought about this topic in my head for a while and told myself that i should start a topic on it
ok then here is the topic
Falling in your dreams

When people fall in their dreams they almost touch the ground and wake up
This is common among most people

I am different
When i fall in my dream i hit the ground and continue with the dream
This is i find is not a common thing among most people

I would like to know if you hit the ground in your dreams or wake up in shock
I bilieve it would benifit myself and everyone who reads this topic
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« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2009, 06:08:09 PM »

Personally I can't remember ever having a falling dream, so I can't give input to this topic. Except to say that I am very interested in what other people have experienced, since it is of course such a common dream symbol, and I don't really know what it means.
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« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2009, 10:41:16 PM »

i agree that they are an important dream symbol, but they're also a common phenomenon associated with sleep.

it's got a psych name and everything:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnic_jerk

i can't be sure, but i believe that when we have this sensation it's because our bodies are adjusting, and our brain makes up a reason for it (ie. we must be falling) and inserts that reason into the dream. it's sortof the same phenomenon as incorporating the sound of your alarm clock into a dream.

that said, it's interesting that you don't wake up after the falling sensation. "medically" (as opposed to in dream interpretation-speak) i would suggest that your startle response has developed differently...maybe it's not as strong? i'm not sure. what this means in dream-speak, i dunno.

also, the hypnic jerk (sounds like a dance step, lol) is most common when we are JUST falling asleep. i'm sure that it could work the other way around during REM (which is deeper in the sleep cycle), where the dream sequence in your brain CAUSES you to jerk. again, i'm just guessing, no clue really.

my falling dreams used to be bigger (ie. i would fall longer distances). i've gotten used to waking up mid-fall because i'm scared of heights and would rather not dream about it. however when i'm just about to fall asleep i do experience hypnic jerks, and the dream associated with them is usually me tripping on the street or falling down a flight of stairs or more day-to-day things like that. i tend to dream about my day when i'm falling asleep, which is why i guess i'm not dreaming of falling off a plane or whatever, which i don't do in waking life, but i might see appear in deeper sleep stages.


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« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2009, 01:44:19 PM »

It is strange that you don't wake up after hitting the ground.

Mostly falling dreams occur when you are in the first stage of sleep "light sleep" this causes your brain to respond by waking you up before you hit the ground.

According to eastern mythology if you have this dream and it keeps going after you hit the ground you will also die in the waking world. But that is just myth since some people are deep enough in the REM stage that the dream keeps going on.

As for myself I sometimes dream I'm walking but suddenly miss a step on a ladder or something so I wake up immediately. When I was a kid I used to always dream I was in the car with my family but we drove of a bridge and the ground just rushes to meet us, I would wake up seconds before we touch it though, that's one dream I don't miss...

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« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2009, 03:42:56 PM »

Wow
This is all great input
Is there any more out there that can top that
Thanx you guys
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« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2009, 10:56:19 PM »

i agree that they are an important dream symbol, but they're also a common phenomenon associated with sleep.

it's got a psych name and everything:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnic_jerk

i can't be sure, but i believe that when we have this sensation it's because our bodies are adjusting, and our brain makes up a reason for it (ie. we must be falling) and inserts that reason into the dream. it's sortof the same phenomenon as incorporating the sound of your alarm clock into a dream.

that said, it's interesting that you don't wake up after the falling sensation. "medically" (as opposed to in dream interpretation-speak) i would suggest that your startle response has developed differently...maybe it's not as strong? i'm not sure. what this means in dream-speak, i dunno.

also, the hypnic jerk (sounds like a dance step, lol) is most common when we are JUST falling asleep. i'm sure that it could work the other way around during REM (which is deeper in the sleep cycle), where the dream sequence in your brain CAUSES you to jerk. again, i'm just guessing, no clue really.

my falling dreams used to be bigger (ie. i would fall longer distances). i've gotten used to waking up mid-fall because i'm scared of heights and would rather not dream about it. however when i'm just about to fall asleep i do experience hypnic jerks, and the dream associated with them is usually me tripping on the street or falling down a flight of stairs or more day-to-day things like that. i tend to dream about my day when i'm falling asleep, which is why i guess i'm not dreaming of falling off a plane or whatever, which i don't do in waking life, but i might see appear in deeper sleep stages.

That's really interesting, Alice.  Although I don't remember ever having a falling dream, I have gone through seasons (not lately for some reason) where I would jerk awake suddenly while falling asleep, almost every night.  It's really annoying when that happens.  Is that the phenomenon you're talking about--hypnic jerk?  It might be a genetic trait, because my mom does it too.

Maybe A.Truth doesn't jerk awake because he's trained himself not to be scared, as mentioned in a different post.  (Very applaudable endeavor-- more than I could do, frankly.)  Or perhaps for him the falling is a specific symbol the dream is using to make a point, a different point than many other dreamers' dreams are using.
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« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2009, 09:53:26 PM »

hmm as far as the hypnic jerk being genetic, i would almost go ahead and assume that it is a human universal, and that we all have the experience of jerking awake (or having a part of our bodies jerk or twitch as we settle into sleep) during the falling asleep process. i don't know the ACTUAL cause, but it was always explained to me as being because our muscles are relaxing (i think of the way furniture relaxes in a house, and how houses get those creaks and stuff. i think it's the same thing in our bodies, where there's a general slow release, but sometimes these releases happen in jerks and spasms, especially if there's tension there).

that'd be interesting though - if the hypnic jerk could stand in as a different dream symbol in each person.

also, a.itruth may also be speaking about something else. he may be dreaming about falling (maybe when he's already in REM and dreaming regularly) and simply not have the shock response. i think you can dream about falling without a hypnic jerk, as i'm pretty sure you can have the hypnic jerk without associating it with falling (at least not in a dream, although you may still have the falling sensation, or the sensation of a loss of balance).

dunno actually. it sortof depends on what state of sleep this happens in.
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« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2009, 04:28:47 AM »

Joynsyde: That is really interesting thanx, though I do knot know how I could have trained myself ( I am not fond of hieghts in my waking life)

Alice: I kinda know about the different pattens of sleep but didnt thing it would effect how people could react to a dream, I am always learning, this is so helpful thanx.

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« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2009, 11:02:21 AM »

I jerk awake all the time when I'm just falling asleep. So irritating, because its hard enough for me to fall asleep as it is!! I usually wake up if I'm falling in REM, but not totally. Just enough to think about something else so that I quit dreaming about falling.
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« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2009, 08:32:46 PM »

When I was a young teenager, I had a recurring dream that I was the roadrunner and I was being chased by the coyote. I dreamed I was running across a bridge over a gorge and I fell through a hole in the bridge. I hit the bottom and I all of the sudden I was no longer a cartoon but I was a mangle bloddy mess on the rocks. I never did find out what it meant. I did hit every time had this dream. It has been about 30 years since this dream. I scared me and for a long time I did not watch any cartoons.
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« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2009, 08:39:01 PM »

Sorry about the typos
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« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2009, 10:46:16 PM »

Joynsyde: That is really interesting thanx, though I do knot know how I could have trained myself ( I am not fond of hieghts in my waking life)

I remember reading in a different post that you have trained yourself not to be scared of horror films.  So I was saying that perhaps your courage also applies to scary dreams like falling off a cliff.  Just a thought.
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« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2009, 06:56:07 AM »

The difference is that I have trained myself to know that horror films/ games are not real and cannot hurt me
Hieghts are physical and will hurt

I = wimp :p
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« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2009, 12:45:54 PM »

Falling hurts in real life, but not in dreams  Smiley.

In a recent dream, I was companying a friend in a high-rise building. For some reason, she though it was necessary that we jump out of the window holding a porcelain plate. I looked out of the window and it was about 2000 feet above the ground. I  occasionally parachute in real life. I was thinking, "It is dangerous to do this without a parachute," while knowing that I was going to be OK. I am a man so I did it first. I jumped as if I was parachuting. I felt the sensation of free falling together with the blast of cold air  shaking my clothes and hair and cutting my skin and bones. Don't remember how it ended. It wasn't a big bang.     
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« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2009, 06:06:41 AM »

your dream is very interesting
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« Reply #15 on: June 08, 2009, 05:27:48 PM »

The act of falling in dreams is best interpreted as the idea of failing. Many people have the perception that they have failed in some area of their life; failed to live up to other?s expectations as well as their own expectations. Thus the frequency of dreams of falling.

When the fall is such that we land on solid ground, the scene is indicating that we have grounds ? reasons ? to justify or excuse the failing. Any other objects that we might land upon also indicate the idea that can justify or excuse the failure.

Falling but managing to wake up before landing:  In many cases the assumption when falling is that we will be dashed to pieces, end up dead or at least be badly hurt. That is, our perception of having failed is that it will lead to great emotional devastation. Thus by waking up before this can happen, the dream is telling us to ?wake up? ? to come to a greater sense of awareness about this situation. Because, of course, after waking up we find that we have not been so completely emotionally devastated  as our Dream World or imaginative thinking led us to think.

The falling sensation as we are falling asleep: Everything that pertains to sleep needs to be interpreted as if it were an act seen in a dream. Thus this shock of feeling we are falling just as we enter a sleeping state is telling us that our perception of having failed somewhere in our life is actually preventing us from resting with complete peace of mind. Since God gave us sleep and the thus the right to peace of mind, jerking ourself awake because we feel we are falling would indicate an error of thought on our part. Our perception of having failed is the error. It is preventing us from enjoying the peace of mind we have a right to. This meaning applies when we are in a bed and about to fall asleep in reality. In other location the meaning will have some variations (because of the particular symbolism reflected by the bed).
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« Reply #16 on: June 09, 2009, 06:24:19 PM »

That is a very good explanation. What do you think of an decision to fall/jump in your dream? Is it an expression of telling yourself to get to the ground at any cost?
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« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2009, 11:49:47 AM »

Kai, where a decision has to be made to fall or jump, the scene can be showing that in your mind some action could be regarded as a failling on your part but it could also instead be seen as simply taking a leap of faith.

P.S. I am happy that you liked the explanation. I hope it will prove useful to everyone.
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